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		<title>Comment on Off the record by antiSWer</title>
		<link>http://cbtish.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/off-the-record/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>antiSWer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taping is used a lot in the sessions at my agency, but I avoid them as much as possible. Even if there&#039;s some hesitation from my client that it will interfere with therapy, I won&#039;t press the button. We also have supervisors viewing through the one way mirror.

The only problem is that I have to be evaluated some way, so I&#039;m being pressed to do more taping and being observed more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taping is used a lot in the sessions at my agency, but I avoid them as much as possible. Even if there&#8217;s some hesitation from my client that it will interfere with therapy, I won&#8217;t press the button. We also have supervisors viewing through the one way mirror.</p>
<p>The only problem is that I have to be evaluated some way, so I&#8217;m being pressed to do more taping and being observed more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Off the record by Lola Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought provoking.

As someone who has had their therapy sessions recorded and found it very intrusive, I have to say it was unhelpful for me. I knew it was part of the deal, but that didn&#039;t make it any easier. 

I certainly held back a great deal, ok I wasn&#039;t exactly a open book anyway, but I held back far more when I was conscious of a little dictaphone recording me. It made it very difficult to disclose anything, partially because despite reassurance I didn&#039;t trust where that tape would end up, but also because I was very conscious of what I was saying and how I was saying it. I could visualise it becoming a record set in stone. It stopped being about my thoughts, and started being how an external party might percieve what i was saying, and judge me on it. I felt more like a specimen than a person.

Lola x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought provoking.</p>
<p>As someone who has had their therapy sessions recorded and found it very intrusive, I have to say it was unhelpful for me. I knew it was part of the deal, but that didn&#8217;t make it any easier. </p>
<p>I certainly held back a great deal, ok I wasn&#8217;t exactly a open book anyway, but I held back far more when I was conscious of a little dictaphone recording me. It made it very difficult to disclose anything, partially because despite reassurance I didn&#8217;t trust where that tape would end up, but also because I was very conscious of what I was saying and how I was saying it. I could visualise it becoming a record set in stone. It stopped being about my thoughts, and started being how an external party might percieve what i was saying, and judge me on it. I felt more like a specimen than a person.</p>
<p>Lola x</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturation by Neuroskeptic</title>
		<link>http://cbtish.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/saturation/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuroskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So these PWPs are therapists for people who don&#039;t actually need therapy.

I wonder whether that&#039;s the future of treating people who don&#039;t need treatment. At the moment such people generally get SSRIs, 20 years ago it was Valium, but there&#039;s a backlash against antidepressants now - the Scottish National Party, bizarrely, pledged to cut antidepressant prescriptions by 10% by the end of this year.

In 10 years will we be talking about over-use of CBT instead of over-use of Prozac?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So these PWPs are therapists for people who don&#8217;t actually need therapy.</p>
<p>I wonder whether that&#8217;s the future of treating people who don&#8217;t need treatment. At the moment such people generally get SSRIs, 20 years ago it was Valium, but there&#8217;s a backlash against antidepressants now &#8211; the Scottish National Party, bizarrely, pledged to cut antidepressant prescriptions by 10% by the end of this year.</p>
<p>In 10 years will we be talking about over-use of CBT instead of over-use of Prozac?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturation by cbtish</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbtish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t spot that. Yes, of course you are completely right. Your joining up of the dots is impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t spot that. Yes, of course you are completely right. Your joining up of the dots is impressive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Twist by Claire</title>
		<link>http://cbtish.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/twist/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I gathered, it was as you pointed out, they were not aware of the therapists technique. I think they were just happy with what worked, but couldn&#039;t point out what it was that actually worked until a lot further on in their studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I gathered, it was as you pointed out, they were not aware of the therapists technique. I think they were just happy with what worked, but couldn&#8217;t point out what it was that actually worked until a lot further on in their studies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturation by Lola Snow</title>
		<link>http://cbtish.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/saturation/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>Lola Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah I think I&#039;ve seen this before somewhere?

Right now PWP&#039;s don&#039;t treat anyone, but I wonder if after a year, the powers that be might decide PWP&#039;s should have just a little bit more responsibility, just to cover a conveniently appearing gap in the system. So add a low budget training course, a tiddley pay rise and then maybe, after another year, a little bit more responsibility, and another budget training course, probably on a vastly overpriced CD-ROM. Then all of a sudden, you got yourself half-price therapists! Winner, hey with all those therapists, whatcha need the expensive ones for? That&#039;s costing loads of money. Get rid of them and save tonnes of cash!

The acronym PCSO ring a bell?


Lola x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah I think I&#8217;ve seen this before somewhere?</p>
<p>Right now PWP&#8217;s don&#8217;t treat anyone, but I wonder if after a year, the powers that be might decide PWP&#8217;s should have just a little bit more responsibility, just to cover a conveniently appearing gap in the system. So add a low budget training course, a tiddley pay rise and then maybe, after another year, a little bit more responsibility, and another budget training course, probably on a vastly overpriced CD-ROM. Then all of a sudden, you got yourself half-price therapists! Winner, hey with all those therapists, whatcha need the expensive ones for? That&#8217;s costing loads of money. Get rid of them and save tonnes of cash!</p>
<p>The acronym PCSO ring a bell?</p>
<p>Lola x</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anon. by cbtish</title>
		<link>http://cbtish.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/anon/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>cbtish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:???: Shopping for shoes? I&#039;m wondering where it would go if you took it further. It reminds me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gocomics.com/cathy/2009/10/04/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' />  Shopping for shoes? I&#8217;m wondering where it would go if you took it further. It reminds me of <a href="http://www.gocomics.com/cathy/2009/10/04/" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anon. by cbtish</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbtish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, long-term / short-term is another way. In CBT that distinction doesn&#039;t work well, because CBT sometimes turns out to be very intense in a short time, effectively treating quite severe mental illness, and it doesn&#039;t seem to make sense to call it counselling just because there were not many sessions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, long-term / short-term is another way. In CBT that distinction doesn&#8217;t work well, because CBT sometimes turns out to be very intense in a short time, effectively treating quite severe mental illness, and it doesn&#8217;t seem to make sense to call it counselling just because there were not many sessions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Twist by cbtish</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbtish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that people who had experienced therapy themselves did not seem to have picked up skills from it. I wonder if that&#039;s because as a client you focus so much on yourself, and are not aware of your therapist&#039;s technique. You&#039;re right that you don&#039;t experience everything that a client goes through, and the whole point of your training should be that you learn to be effective even when you and your client have little shared experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that people who had experienced therapy themselves did not seem to have picked up skills from it. I wonder if that&#8217;s because as a client you focus so much on yourself, and are not aware of your therapist&#8217;s technique. You&#8217;re right that you don&#8217;t experience everything that a client goes through, and the whole point of your training should be that you learn to be effective even when you and your client have little shared experience.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anon. by cbtish</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbtish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right — there can be an element of teaching in psychotherapy, but I think of learning through shared discovery as much more important, and certainly all the language of classic CBT is about investigation, discovery, and making-sense-of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right — there can be an element of teaching in psychotherapy, but I think of learning through shared discovery as much more important, and certainly all the language of classic CBT is about investigation, discovery, and making-sense-of.</p>
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